David Senra says enduring founders chase a mission larger than themselves, not money, citing Steve Jobs and Elon Musk.
Scott Galloway says balance does not exist and his 22-to-42 working life cost him his hair and first marriage.
Galloway advises selling when the business is thriving and acquirers are knocking, while Senra says a life's work should never be sold.
What founders sacrifice to build something that lasts
A historian of founders and a founder talk through what the work costs. Senra has read 439 biographies and autobiographies in ten years and argues the founders who last are driven by a mission rather than money . Galloway says there is no balance, only trade-offs , and the two part on selling, with Galloway selling into strength and Senra refusing to sell his life's work .
Takeaways
The best founders chase a mission, not money. Senra's favourites, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, John D. Rockefeller and Henry Ford, were on a mission larger than themselves , chasing it with monomaniacal focus and high agency .
There is no work-life balance, only trade-offs. Galloway says his working life from 22 to 42 cost him his hair and his first marriage, and he calls it worth it . Senra points to Revolut, Europe's largest private company, whose chief executive gives 99.5% of his time to work .
Start from strength, not market size. Senra agrees entrepreneurs should start from what they are uniquely good at rather than a total addressable market calculation . Much of it cannot be sketched into a formula, so pick something you like and stay in the game long enough to get lucky .
Being different beats being better. Dyson's view is that you can build a business just by being different, not necessarily better . He built 5,127 prototypes before the first cyclonic vacuum met his standards , against companies making $500m a year from vacuum bags .
Sell when the business is jamming. Galloway says to do the opposite of your emotions, so when the business is jamming and an inbound offer arrives, you hire a banker . He usually owned 30 to 50% at exit, because he gave equity away rather than raising more rounds .
Owners who hoard equity stunt their businesses. Galloway says small businesses get stuck because owners assume mid- and lower-level employees do not want to be rich, when in fact they want equity and outsized compensation . He gives employees two to three times the equity a venture-backed startup would .
Why Senra will never sell
Senra says the start-scale-and-sell path is a good route to wealth when a business is for economic security, but a life's work should never be sold .
He has podcasted for over ten years, and for the first five and a half years nobody listened at all .
Joe Coulombe regretted selling Trader Joe's, and died the week after Becoming Trader Joe was published .
John Mackey sold Whole Foods to Amazon for $13-14bn, worried about a business he had worked on for forty years . Amazon executives later told him to shut up, which Senra says was devastating .
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