The High Flyers Podcast with Vidit Agarwal
01:04:03 · Vidit Agarwal, Robert Nason
[01:04:03] S0: I would actually say one of my pet peeves, Robert and Neil is we live in a world that is too concise now because of AI. I think everyone is now distilling everything into a two sentence summary and we've lost a lot of the nuance that used to exist when humans had to use their brain to summarise something. We talked earlier about boards. I hear this all the time with boards where they're like, yep, we put the board pack into AI and we got the summary. And it's like, you might have missed some of the nuance in the board pack cause you just summarized it using AI. [01:04:33] S2: Well, yeah and I'm happy that's your view but gee, I got tired as a CEO of having 50 page PowerPoint decks to explain a simple issue of WhatsApp campaign for the next mobile phone device. And there were really only three things they were saying but you had to dig them out. It's just unnecessary. It's fluff. And it doesn't make you look smart to have, you don't measure things by weight, measure them by content. Businesses are just not that complex to me. It's a telephone company runs a big network, sells time and use of that network and extracts a fee. That's all they do. It's pretty straightforward. I noticed that Telstra particularly when I'm there, can complicate things, the cows come home, you can use jargon. It just slows down decision making and those that simplify make progress in those sorts of organisations.
01:04:33 · Robert Nason, Vidit Agarwal
[01:04:33] S2: Well, yeah and I'm happy that's your view but gee, I got tired as a CEO of having 50 page PowerPoint decks to explain a simple issue of WhatsApp campaign for the next mobile phone device. And there were really only three things they were saying but you had to dig them out. It's just unnecessary. It's fluff. And it doesn't make you look smart to have, you don't measure things by weight, measure them by content. Businesses are just not that complex to me. It's a telephone company runs a big network, sells time and use of that network and extracts a fee. That's all they do. It's pretty straightforward. I noticed that Telstra particularly when I'm there, can complicate things, the cows come home, you can use jargon. It just slows down decision making and those that simplify make progress in those sorts of organisations. [01:05:43] S0: Yeah, yeah, that is true. And last one for you, Neil. For anyone looking to buy the book or read the book, is there a particular chapter you would encourage them to definitely read?
01:05:43 · Vidit Agarwal, Neil Plumridge, Robert Nason
[01:05:43] S0: Yeah, yeah, that is true. And last one for you, Neil. For anyone looking to buy the book or read the book, is there a particular chapter you would encourage them to definitely read? [01:05:55] S1: So look, the book is not a book that you take three lessons out of. Everyone will come at the book with a different level of experience, different level of understanding. So what I'd encourage is everyone to buy the book and scan it for the main topics and themes and then do a deep dive in the areas of interest, whether it's origination, whether it's the history. We spend a whole chapter on the history of consulting all the way back to Arthur D. Little in the 1880s. So whatever it is, we just encourage people to scan it first then do a deep dive. There's a set of questions. We then encourage everyone to go on to rain,rayn,.com.au, subscribe to our newsletter. Robert and I periodically send out detailed newsletters, not very often but maybe four, five times a year, of things that we're seeing and hearing right here, right now that we want to share with our subscribers. Or people can hit me up on LinkedIn too. I'm happy to respond via LinkedIn as well. [01:07:00] S0: Yeah, absolutely. Well, Robert and Neil, that brings us to the finish line. Again, a huge congrats on the book. Think as we've just spoken, it's a big undertaking and I for one have really enjoyed getting to know you both through this process and yeah, looking forward to what's ahead. [01:07:15] S2: Thanks, Vidit. [01:07:16] S1: Thank you, Vidit.
01:07:16 · Neil Plumridge, Vidit Agarwal
[01:07:16] S1: Thank you, Vidit. [01:07:17] S0: That's a wrap. So if something in this episode sparked a thought, send it to a friend or colleague. And if you're curious about partnering with us and the Curiosity Centre, whether it's this podcast, to our reports, events and more, and join the ranks of existing commercial partners including Google, KPMG, Vanta and others. My details are in the show notes. Until next time, I'm Vidit Tagawal and this is the High Flies Podcast.