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01:06:17 · S5, Kosta, Sam
[01:06:17] S5: Yeah. And now you're sort of like, how do I incorporate this into my life, my social fabric? And I don't think any product has the answer yet. [01:06:22] S0: Yeah. I saw a funny thing on this. Was like, my favorite... One of my favorite things to do to watch someone squirm is ask ask ask a consumer agent founder what their favorite use case is. And it's all the same thing. Right? It's always been... [01:06:33] S5: It's like the crypto thing. Yeah. What are the use cases, bro? [01:06:37] S0: Where's the utility? [01:06:38] S5: It's super it looks it's super exciting. There's something there. [01:06:41] S0: Yeah. I know. I agree. Let's not laugh at [01:06:42] S1: How are using? Are you using any of them? [01:06:45] S5: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I use... I I... So I actually use Grok bots a lot. Cool. I mean, I use them all for different things. Yeah. So I use... I end up using Grok bots a bunch because it lets me intersect my work in professional. And I think the roster system works well for power users, but I don't know that that's the right setup for most consumers. Again, I think that these things are gonna diverge. I mean, all the areas of, like, seeming substitution, everything from image models to coding models to decision models, we've seen divergence, and these things that were supposed to kill each other are now just serving different use cases. The same is gonna happen with personal agents, I [01:07:19] S1: Yeah, yeah. Interesting.
01:07:19 · Sam, Kosta, S5
[01:07:19] S1: Yeah, yeah. Interesting. [01:07:20] S0: Maybe one last one before we have our next guest on. What are you most excited about right now? Where is the I asked James earlier the same question. Where is the next multibillion, multi trillion dollar company come out? It could be in ten years. It could be in five years. It doesn't have to exist today. I think you asked Michele a similar question yesterday. What is that company for you? [01:07:39] S5: I don't know. For me, I'm very intellectually stimulated by the agent swarms and teams concept. I think just exploring that as a way to organize and execute work because there's so many implications of a parallelization, entropy, sort of specialization. I'm very, very curious to see what it means when we apply intelligence organized in that way to our hardest problems. [01:08:00] S1: Yeah. Interesting. [01:08:00] S0: Anish, thank you so much. [01:08:02] S5: That's great. Pleasure. Pleasure. My brother. [01:08:04] S0: You're a legend. Absolute pleasure. I'll see you later as well. [01:08:07] S5: Dude, I loved how geeked out you were about the magic last night. [01:08:10] S1: Dude, that guy's that guy's generation. Good as number. [01:08:12] S0: Hey. Yeah. Yeah. We we followed each other on Instagram. Out. [01:08:15] S1: He he knows the arsenal team. Does he? Yeah. Yeah. He's good friends with, like, soccer. And I was like, dude, that's awesome. Like... [01:08:22] S5: You want us to invite him tomorrow?
01:08:22 · S5, Sam, Kosta, Fabian
[01:08:22] S5: You want us to invite him tomorrow? [01:08:23] S1: I I said I'm going to the arsenal game. He was like, I can't come. And I was like, okay. Otherwise... Yeah. Otherwise, I would have brought him. [01:08:30] S0: Cheers, dude. We've got Fabian joining us, our last guest of the day. Fabian, cofounder at Front Sense. Fellows. Dude, how are we? So good to have you on, mate. So good to have you on. Dude. Appreciate [01:08:40] S1: it. Appreciate it. [01:08:41] S0: Headset there. Feel free to chuck it on. You and I were having a great chat last night. Admittedly, I was drinking probably too much wine. So it was relatively cloudy. So I'm happy that we've got an opportunity to do this, and we can talk about it more. Do you wanna maybe just give an introduction to yourself, the company, the setup that you've got right now? I was fascinated by it last night. [01:09:01] S6: Yeah. Thank you so much. Have you guys recovered from losing to FADO last night? [01:09:05] S1: Oh, really? Talking about it. [01:09:07] S0: I didn't... I thought I asked him for the camera. I asked him for a photo when I left. I didn't realize it was him at first, and it wasn't until James put in the chat, like, the Fatal Halt session is starting. And I realized when we were playing, but I didn't wanna fanboy in front of everyone. [01:09:20] S1: As soon as, like, it it got later it got later. You you were there later. Right? And then it it started again later, I think everyone was just asking him quite... Like, was just like everything was directing towards him in terms [01:09:30] S0: of So insane.
01:09:30 · Kosta, Sam, Fabian, James Lowe
[01:09:30] S0: of So insane. [01:09:31] S1: Super funny. [01:09:32] S0: But that we have [01:09:32] S1: enjoyed it. Yeah. [01:09:33] S6: I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. [01:09:34] S1: Like, I [01:09:35] S6: I mean, like, it was probably the the most I've ever enjoyed losing money at Focus. [01:09:40] S1: Exactly. You're happy to lose to someone like that. [01:09:42] S4: Yeah. Exactly. Funny. [01:09:43] S1: Dude, tell tell us about the company. Tell us about what you're building. And, yeah, why you're why you're with us, why why you're a 16 z. [01:09:50] S6: Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Thank you so much for hosting. Of So basically, I'm I'm I'm here together with three other friends. We set up Frontier Fellows, which is a community of people that are looking to build global AI companies. And basically, build that community, we convinced investors to give us a 160 k of funding to rent a massive house in Palo Alto with a ballroom and a pool and a lot of rooms for people to build their companies and to to ideate and develop ideas. Mhmm. So, yeah, that worked out tremendously well in the last months. So just, yeah, very, very happy. And SXCNC actually supported us in that process. So happy to talk a little bit about how that happened and, yeah, what what led led to it and what came out now. [01:10:33] S0: Yeah. Give us give us a founding story. Why why why this? Why now?
01:10:33 · Kosta, Fabian, Sam
[01:10:33] S0: Yeah. Give us give us a founding story. Why why why this? Why now? [01:10:36] S6: Yeah. For sure. So basically me and these three other friends met at CDTM. And CDTM is probably the most underrated startup community out there. So it's a network in Munich. It's a collaboration of TU Munich and LMU. And basically it's a cohort of 25 people every semester. And it's basically a program that leads, yeah, guides you through a seven week intense workshops of collaborating with these other people. And then it opens up into a community of roughly a thousand people. And through that community, around 20 to 30% of all German unicorns were produced. So the outcomes of of this small group of people have been tremendous. I think there's like a lot of KPIs on how much money went into it and how many euros of taxes were returned. And it's like a a crazy ROI. And people actually don't know about it so well internationally. So, yeah, this is basically the community where me and these three other friends met. And during that time, we realized that it's actually really amazing to try to get to SF. And I wanted to do Stanford research since I was very young. So basically that community enabled me go there. And we realized that because of these amazing KPIs, there's a lot of VCs that now have like pockets full of money and don't really know where to spend it. I mean, there's more VC money ever, but like less investments than ever before. Right? So it's very concentrated. [01:12:07] S1: Mhmm.
01:12:07 · Sam, Fabian, Ed Leon Klinger, Kosta
[01:12:07] S1: Mhmm. [01:12:08] S6: So VCs are struggling to to really differentiate and therefore having very early access to amazing talent is actually a strong mode to to do something. Right? Yeah. So we basically sat down and talked to a couple of investors and and realized that they actually have a willingness to pay just to have a house with amazing people to get to know them, to eventually be able to invest at like a little bit of a... At an earlier point than others. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, used that to to get initial funding. Yeah. And... Yeah. Like, the initial discussions were more more bumpy until we met Gabriel Vasquez, one [01:12:44] S3: one of [01:12:45] S0: the recent... What a legend. Always guys like to game. [01:12:47] S6: Yeah. Massive legend. We met him at Slush last year, actually. [01:12:51] S1: Nice.