00:04:45 · Aditya Agarwal, Dmitri Dolgov
[00:04:45] S2: But none of the manual, like, me updating Waze, you know, like, for the other drivers. Okay. Or I have to. [00:04:50] S0: Yeah. Well, one more interesting coordination example is in the depots Okay. Where, you know, it's tighter quarters, and then they have to coordinate where they go, which one, you know, is gonna use which charging station. So that one is actually kind of pretty amazing to see. It's like a a well choreographed ballet of robots Yeah. In the inside quarters. [00:05:11] S2: I wanna go back to something that you said, which, you know, I often think about as an engineer. I've built many systems. None of the systems have had the failure modes, if you will, as if you're launching this. So I often think about myself, what must it have felt like the first time you were getting essentially a random passenger who was basically flagging down a Waymo, and then you're putting them in. Must have felt like such a sense of responsibility. Absolutely. [00:05:40] S0: Yeah. This is, you know, the... Yeah. The stakes are high. [00:05:43] S2: The stakes are high. [00:05:43] S0: Yeah. They're, you know, putting into a real vehicle with Yeah. You know, real mass traveling to real speeds. And it's not just about, of course, people in the car. It's about, you know, sharing the environment Yeah. The, you know, and the safety of the, you know, other people that we share the roads with, you know, pedestrian cyclists, you know, other vehicles. That's definitely something we take super, super seriously. That... You know, one of the things that makes this problem so hard.
00:05:43 · Dmitri Dolgov, Aditya Agarwal, Ruchi Sanghvi
[00:05:43] S0: Yeah. They're, you know, putting into a real vehicle with Yeah. You know, real mass traveling to real speeds. And it's not just about, of course, people in the car. It's about, you know, sharing the environment Yeah. The, you know, and the safety of the, you know, other people that we share the roads with, you know, pedestrian cyclists, you know, other vehicles. That's definitely something we take super, super seriously. That... You know, one of the things that makes this problem so hard. [00:06:07] S2: Yeah. No. It's incredible. Given that we are in the Waymo, you know, one of the temptations I always have when I get in... This will sound a little weird. I kind of always wanna say hello to the Waymo when I get in. Know? Because when I get into any car [00:06:21] S0: Wait. What's stopping you? [00:06:22] S2: I don't know. I often do. I'm like, yo. What's up? You know? Let's go. And so I'm curious. Have you started to see people develop some kind of relationship with these Waymo? Is there an anthromorphic relationship that people are having that you have noticed as people get used to them more? [00:06:40] S0: I'll always tell you, you're not alone. [00:06:42] S2: Okay. [00:06:42] S0: And that we do see people talk to their way... Waymo's, you know, wave to them. My kids do that. [00:06:51] S1: Okay.
00:06:51 · Ruchi Sanghvi, Dmitri Dolgov, Aditya Agarwal
[00:06:51] S1: Okay. [00:06:51] S0: There's always a, you know, thanks, Waymo. Bye. And because of the the the social and the interactive nature of this whole driving task, I think it's natural that, you know, people ascribe some human characteristics to it and they kinda wanna, you know, interface with it. It kind of... Sometimes it cuts both ways. You know, sometimes, you know, it... Some people are kinder. They're like, you know, too. Oh, wow. Yeah. And, you know, they wave, they say thank you, they say hello. Some people are more aggressive side, and the one I... Yeah. There's a little bit of a, you know, bullying, know, human driver, and they would test the limits. So kinda like how, you know, maybe it's a bit of a litmus test of, like, how you behave, you know, with a Waymo is how you behave [00:07:34] S2: How you're gonna behave watching. On the subject of essentially user behavior within cars, I'm curious what kind of longitudinal behavior patterns you have seen as people get more relaxed, more comfortable being in a Waymo. Do you find that they tend to essentially either take longer trips, take more trips with people? I am curious, as we have now started to grow up with this technology over multiple years, what kinds of behavior patterns are you seeing, for instance, within San Francisco that might be pretty different relative to, you know, when
00:07:34 · Aditya Agarwal, Dmitri Dolgov
[00:07:34] S2: How you're gonna behave watching. On the subject of essentially user behavior within cars, I'm curious what kind of longitudinal behavior patterns you have seen as people get more relaxed, more comfortable being in a Waymo. Do you find that they tend to essentially either take longer trips, take more trips with people? I am curious, as we have now started to grow up with this technology over multiple years, what kinds of behavior patterns are you seeing, for instance, within San Francisco that might be pretty different relative to, you know, when [00:08:04] S0: it first came out? We see people using them for, you know, all kinds of trips. There's, you know, commuting. Get up to work. Once you get into it, I think you... I'm kind of curious to hear your experience, but, you know, I hear that from a lot of people, I feel that myself, is, you know, you get your time back. It's like, oh, yeah. But like teleportation. You're... Because you're working on something, and then you get up in the car and you continue doing what you're doing. Yep. Right? So I think that [00:08:34] S2: It's pretty incredible. Literally, soon as... Because I take Zoom calls or, you know, kind of like video conference calls every day from from the car, and the first thing that people say, are you in Waymo? I'm like, yes. That's why you can see my hands.
00:08:34 · Aditya Agarwal, Dmitri Dolgov
[00:08:34] S2: It's pretty incredible. Literally, soon as... Because I take Zoom calls or, you know, kind of like video conference calls every day from from the car, and the first thing that people say, are you in Waymo? I'm like, yes. That's why you can see my hands. [00:08:47] S0: WFW. Right? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Waymo. Yeah. And people, know, take them on social trips, you know, with your family or with your partner. Yeah. You not having to share the space with a stranger Makes a huge difference. Private conversations. Yeah. You can relax. You know, people take them alone, and, you know, you get to blast your music. Oh, yeah. Sing your lungs out. So you got by, [00:09:13] S2: like, music sync up, get the Spotify going. Yeah. Exactly. [00:09:16] S0: You can... You get... Yeah. This is... And this... All these are properties of the... Like, you own the space. You own the space. Or, you know, interviews. I guess that's the that's the new You it. New product use case. [00:09:28] S2: What can we look forward to as, you know, you know, I've only been in the Ojai a couple of times, but, like, you know, what kinds of things are you innovating on with the new the new vehicle in terms of the form factor, in terms of the physical kind of space within the car,
00:09:28 · Aditya Agarwal, Dmitri Dolgov
[00:09:28] S2: What can we look forward to as, you know, you know, I've only been in the Ojai a couple of times, but, like, you know, what kinds of things are you innovating on with the new the new vehicle in terms of the form factor, in terms of the physical kind of space within the car, [00:09:42] S0: and so on? So there's two interesting things about the Ojai. First of all, it's a custom designed vehicle Yep. And designed with the the rider in mind. And, you know, the second one is that the... It's powered by what we call the sixth generation of the Waymo Driver, which is, you know, an evolution of the hardware and the software that runs on it. But on the vehicle itself, like I said, it's all about the rider experience. Right? It's not designed around the driver. It's designed around the rider. Yep. So it starts... You know, it has these sliding doors that open up wide and make it really easy to get in and out. It is very spacious in the back. [00:10:21] S2: Yes. It is. It's super spacious. [00:10:22] S0: Of a, you know, living room experience, like Yeah. You know, fully stretched out, which you can't quite do in the in the eye base.