Funny Business
00:43:49 · Lachlan Bradford, Robbie Hicks, Sachin
[00:43:49] S0: And then when [00:43:50] S1: you can't push the pace. Like, you need two people, like, you do your planning, you only plan what you can actually deliver. So for us, it's like learning that push pull of sometimes it's not always go fast. Sometimes it's about slowing down and just surviving certain parts while each people are going through different shit, and I think that's probably been the biggest learning curve aspect for [00:44:09] S3: us. [00:44:10] S0: But it's hard too because, like, I feel like when we chat to so many people, the sacrifices they make a lot of the time is family. So it's like, we're building this and we don't give a fuck. Like, it's like, that takes the second seat. And for us, it's like, we wanna build a banging company and work in amazing spaces and help people, but it's like, we still want, like, our child Like, [00:44:29] S1: I wanna be present dad. You know? Like, I don't I don't wanna miss things. And Yeah. That means that I probably... I might not take a meeting today and I might take it tomorrow. Or I might not get back to someone today, I might take it tomorrow, it might means I might lose out on a few things every now and again, or we might not get something. But what I've got is [00:44:45] S0: more taking two weeks off.
00:44:45 · Lachlan Bradford, Adam Miller, Sachin
[00:44:45] S0: more taking two weeks off. [00:44:46] S2: Yeah. We we see the sacrifices a lot. Like, you know, we interview a lot of people and I think just the biggest thing, like, we often ask people and it's so evident is just the amount of sacrifice on, like, relationships and families. A lot of founders make when you're, like, really obsessive and you've got big ambitions. That... Yeah. That comes with a lot of problems and sacrifice. [00:45:06] S3: And, honestly, to circle back to what you guys asked us before, like, that was a big reason we also took the plunge right now. Like, kind of we're at the age where we don't have many obligations. We're both at... I'd say minimum five years off getting married or having kids or anything like that. So, like, this feel... Feels like a time where we can go really hard without sacrificing on too much. [00:45:23] S2: Yeah. Like, I think we would have done it regardless, but it's just... It feels extra sort of easy for us just because our life is positioned quite well to, like, literally focus every hour of the day on the company. [00:45:34] S3: Like, we moved home. Right? And it'd be like, yeah, I think, you know, living at home at 25 in Sydney actually isn't that much of a random thing. Like, a lot of people do it even when they're not starting companies. [00:45:44] S2: Mhmm. I think it's like Few obligations.
00:45:44 · Adam Miller, Robbie Hicks
[00:45:44] S2: Mhmm. I think it's like Few obligations. [00:45:46] S1: Some of the positive that we've told people that we talk to and that, like, you see people burn out and the sacrifice that people have to make and it's like 99%. It's like, well, that's... If they're striving to be like, hey, create the next Canva or be a billion dollar company or whatever it is they're trying to do and me and Lachlan just had that sort of conversation with it... With each other. It's like, what would we actually be happy with? Like, what are we actually trying to build? Like, how crazy do we need to be? Do we wanna go and sacrifice our whole life and friends, family, whatever? Or are we actually interested in other stuff too? And it was more than that.
00:46:16 · Adam Miller, Robbie Hicks
[00:46:16] S2: And I I think, like, that's one of the most important questions people need to ask themselves. Like, what do you actually want? And some people just have this crazy intensity in them where they need to change the world and no matter what, like, no advice is gonna stop them. And that's, I think, like, you know, the people that create world changing companies that often, you know, valued at, like, tens of billions of dollars and stuff, they've just got this intensity and they just do it regardless. But then for a lot of other people, like, having ambitions for building, you know, a billion dollar software company might not be a smart ambition. Like, you gotta ask yourself, like, do you care about it enough? Like, do you really care about the impact? Do you need to make a lot of money? Do you wanna make a lot of money? Are you happy with all those sacrifices? A lot of people, don't ask themselves, like, those fundamental questions before they start a business or before they take on venture capital or before they commit to something for long periods of time. [00:47:05] S1: Well, they all they say the answers they think they have to say to make sure they get the funding in the in the Australian ecosystem. Anyway, moving on from that one. Twelve months time, where's the business at? If we get you back on and we're we're watching from afar, what what are you hoping to achieve?
00:47:05 · Robbie Hicks, Adam Miller, Sachin, Lachlan Bradford
[00:47:05] S1: Well, they all they say the answers they think they have to say to make sure they get the funding in the in the Australian ecosystem. Anyway, moving on from that one. Twelve months time, where's the business at? If we get you back on and we're we're watching from afar, what what are you hoping to achieve? [00:47:20] S2: I think, like, the biggest thing top of mind is that, look, right now we're really prioritizing the media. And within a year's time, we wanna be known as the biggest tech creators in the world or, like, creating the best tech content in the world and be known as those sort of, like, emerging creators. And we've got some, like, super exciting projects under wraps, which are all about creating more cinematic content about startups and founders, like, more documentary style stuff. So we're really excited to pursue that. Yeah. I feel like we know our execution plan, and now we've just gotta we've gotta do it. [00:47:51] S3: Yeah. And then that other kind of software side of the business, that's kind of going along in the background, and we're aiming to get cash flow positive and then hire a CTO. That's a plan at the moment. But these things change all the time. But, like, really focus on everything good being downstream of the media. And just like you guys, like, you know, we we know the benefits of media at scale, and so we wanna, like, do that across the world. [00:48:13] S0: I love that. Are you boys still living together? Or you know... No.
00:48:13 · Lachlan Bradford, Adam Miller, Sachin, Robbie Hicks
[00:48:13] S0: I love that. Are you boys still living together? Or you know... No. [00:48:16] S2: No. We... We've both moved back home. So I live I live with mom. Sachin's moved back home. [00:48:21] S3: It's very sad sad boy energy. [00:48:23] S2: Right? We live... Yeah. In some regards, we live like a very boring life outside of... [00:48:27] S3: We drink like one beer every month. Yeah. If we have a beer, [00:48:30] S2: it's really exciting [00:48:31] S1: for us. [00:48:31] S2: It's like, wow. [00:48:32] S0: And We we had one to... Tonight, Sachin, so thank you. [00:48:36] S3: It's... Yeah. It's a heeps normal. You that's the [00:48:38] S0: same thing. We love heaps normal. [00:48:40] S3: It's the [00:48:40] S0: same shit. Same stuff. Same stuff. But [00:48:43] S3: When you guys come to Sydney, have to show us how to have fun. [00:48:46] S0: Yeah. Don't worry. We will. Time I... Last time we're in Sydney, can't really remember too much. I know that we had a big night, and everyone seemed to like it. It was was it [00:48:55] S1: the boys like we got laid off, like, out of the zoo. The boys have escaped the zoo. They're on the they're on the loose. What do we do? [00:49:00] S2: Yeah. I'm surprised you had that much fun. Like, Sydney's not that fun to go out to. [00:49:04] S0: We felt like there was good end... Like, everyone was, like, keen to do shit. [00:49:07] S1: We're excited just to be on a plane, really. [00:49:08] S0: To be honest. I had the window seat. I was happy. It was, like, [00:49:12] S1: two days out of Melbourne.