The Robotics Stack
00:03:28 · Leo, Xara, Oskar
[00:03:28] S1: I see. That's a pretty strong vision you have here for sure. Pretty thorough. Already everything in mind. Yes. Can you tell us a little bit about your background? Were you in robotics before? I understand you are a repeat founder. So can you tell us a little bit about that? [00:03:41] S2: Yeah. So I was actually trained in physics and computer science. I was a computer software engineer. Robotics for me personally is a new venture. I started this company last year. But initially, when I go into robotics space, I was doing a lot of research. I was planning to go into a robotic data collection space where we collect a lot of robotic data and eventually sell it to some kind of embodied AI, you know, robotic brain company, like physical AI, SQL and so and so forth. But during the process of investigating that kind of business, I realized it's really hard to do a data collection business. Right? We wanna build, let's say, the scale AI version of robotics data, which is very hard. So... But we observe a very interesting industry. It's called dolls. Are you guys familiar with doll industry at all? [00:04:18] S0: I think here in Berlin, there is some sort of venue where you can go and you see some dolls. I mean, from personal experience, we cannot really speak, I think, but we've definitely heard about it a little bit. But tell us more if you want.
00:04:18 · Oskar, Xara, Leo
[00:04:18] S0: I think here in Berlin, there is some sort of venue where you can go and you see some dolls. I mean, from personal experience, we cannot really speak, I think, but we've definitely heard about it a little bit. But tell us more if you want. [00:04:30] S2: Yeah. So it's a it's a $10,000,000,000 industry. So doll is a industry that's growing incredibly fast. And, the revenue generated in dolls was doubling, every single year during COVID, right, from 2019 to 2022 roughly. Because people are lonely. Right? People stay at home, and they wanna interact with dolls. And I think you said earlier, Oskar, there there is in Germany something called cyber brothel where people pay some amount of money. They actually go into one of those, doll brothel and able to interact with the dolls. So it's a $10,000,000,000 industry, and every single year is growing by 2030%. But the... None of the dolls right now on the market moves. None of the dolls right now are built in a robotic fashions that can interact with humans in real time. In fact, I actually have some demos to show you guys. So, initially, this is gonna be very crazy. I I don't know if we can show any of this. [00:05:13] S1: Okay. Show us, and we can always edit.
00:05:13 · Leo, Xara
[00:05:13] S1: Okay. Show us, and we can always edit. [00:05:15] S2: Okay. Let me show you something crazy. So, again, our company was founded last year, and we have built three generation machines. But initially, when we first started our company, we didn't really have our own hardware because being a robotic hardware is very hard, as we said. So we control Unitree to have sex with real humans. This is what we did last year. So we actually attached Doodle to the the Unitree robots, which is what you guys are familiar with. It's one of the most popular, robots available on market right now. And this video actually went really viral on the Internet because it was the first time in history a male robot is interacting with female. And this is what we did last year during Christmas. Santa is a human, and Unitree is a robot. Using the laser specter with AI, we're able to make Unitree recognize the bed and is able to climb onto the bed. You guys might wonder, Unitree does not have a, you know, a a private part. So we actually create a sim card mode just for the Unitree, and we call it the Robo Pussy, just for the Unitree. We start interacting with Robo Pussy, and we move, move, move. It lays down. Oh, this video actually went viral on X for two days before we were taken down because it was so crazy. Right? It was the first time in human history that a human have sex with a robot. [00:06:17] S1: That you know of. I mean, I don't know.
00:06:17 · Leo, Xara
[00:06:17] S1: That you know of. I mean, I don't know. [00:06:20] S2: Yeah. Some people I did before. We're probably one of the first to make a video out of it. Right? Especially using our latest breakthrough and algorithm. Very interesting things happen in this. And before I talk about our own hardware, let me show you some few breakthrough. First of all, we're able to make the Unitree climb onto a bed. This was very, hard to do because, as you know, every single bed has different physics, has different softness, height, and different kind of friction. So once it's on bat, we need to make sure it can switch from any positions into any other positions. These are arching positions. It's switched to a doggy positions. [00:06:49] S1: From a technical point of view, I mean, a human with robots, it's already pretty hard to make it work on two legs. It's not designed at all to use the hands for stability. The hands are literally designed just to carry stuff, not to, you know, move yourself around. So, yeah, this is a pretty strong technical standpoint for sure.
00:06:49 · Leo, Xara
[00:06:49] S1: From a technical point of view, I mean, a human with robots, it's already pretty hard to make it work on two legs. It's not designed at all to use the hands for stability. The hands are literally designed just to carry stuff, not to, you know, move yourself around. So, yeah, this is a pretty strong technical standpoint for sure. [00:07:05] S2: Yes. So, Leo, that's a good observation. So the hands here was the duty order supporting. As you know, in this kind of intimate scenarios, it's very important to use hands. In fact, in simulations, we are able to control robotic hands to do a hand job. So once in a certain position, let's say a doggy position, it's keep moving its butt. So you might wonder why do we do this business? Why do we start this business? First of all, we observe a very interesting market. This sex doll business is $10,000,000,000 industry every single year. It's one of the fastest growing industry on the planet. I guess people are lonely. That's why they introvert with doll. Right? But sex doll has three main issues. Number one, sex dolls are extremely heavy. This sex doll right now is 40 to 60 kilogram. It's very similar to a human weight. Second thing is that, the order moves that you you need to do, you have to basically make it yourself. Right? Because it has no robotic parts. Right? This is the internal frame of the SXO. As you see, there's a metallic frame. So this... It's a metallic frame. You have to basically move yourself, and it does not adjust by itself, obviously, because I'm not a robot.
00:07:05 · Xara, Leo
[00:07:05] S2: Yes. So, Leo, that's a good observation. So the hands here was the duty order supporting. As you know, in this kind of intimate scenarios, it's very important to use hands. In fact, in simulations, we are able to control robotic hands to do a hand job. So once in a certain position, let's say a doggy position, it's keep moving its butt. So you might wonder why do we do this business? Why do we start this business? First of all, we observe a very interesting market. This sex doll business is $10,000,000,000 industry every single year. It's one of the fastest growing industry on the planet. I guess people are lonely. That's why they introvert with doll. Right? But sex doll has three main issues. Number one, sex dolls are extremely heavy. This sex doll right now is 40 to 60 kilogram. It's very similar to a human weight. Second thing is that, the order moves that you you need to do, you have to basically make it yourself. Right? Because it has no robotic parts. Right? This is the internal frame of the SXO. As you see, there's a metallic frame. So this... It's a metallic frame. You have to basically move yourself, and it does not adjust by itself, obviously, because I'm not a robot. [00:07:59] S1: Now what is the weight of a Unitree G1? I'm guessing it's a G1 you have in the other video. Right? [00:08:04] S2: G1 right now with all the parts is roughly very close to 40 kilogram. So G1 is also very heavy. But but G1 has another issue. G... It's very short. [00:08:11] S1: Less heavy than the dollar, though. Yeah.