The Robotics Stack
00:35:05 · Xara
[00:35:05] S2: be young and sad and lonely. But our company believe we are a a universal company that really wants to accommodate peoples with all kind of needs. Not a lot of people are that lucky to get a a lovely part in life, but we think we can have a solution for it. We we really do believe a lot of people are lonely, and we wanna be solution to to it. In fact, when you think about it, humans does need a lot of physical touch. Right? When we have real interactions with a physical being, it increases our oxytocin, decrease our cortisol, stress hormone, and so so forth. So we really want to become a solution to loneliness epidemic rather it's something that makes it worse. So, goes back to your question. You're right that there's this dichotomy. Right? There's people who really like us, and there's people who really dislike us. But we, as a company, we just go go ahead and go forward with our missions to build the most human like robots where humans and robots can really coexist together. And that's something that we already see in a lot of movies, no matter it's in, you know, Blade Runner, you know, in games like Cyberpunk 2077. We wanna imagine a fruitful and bright future instead of something that... That's very dystopian and dark. Right? That's something that we need also address very carefully in the future because what we see right now, gentlemen, Oskar and Leo, is that this play is one of the biggest social experiment happening right now in the modern age, is that we're slowly seeing a a robot that become looking more and more like humans, and we really don't know what happens when humans spend so much time with robots. I don't know how that's gonna impact society economy. I don't know if that's how they're gonna impact people's mental or physical health, but it's a very interesting social experiment that's gonna happen. And I will say that if Somnia lab does not build a intensity of companion robots, someone else would do it anyway. Right? Yeah. We are not unique in the sense of first person's doing it. We are probably more unique in technological stack, but someone has to be the the company that really brings this to a mass market. Even though it's a company like RealDoll and Realbotix that exists before, but they're not really for mass market adoptions.
00:36:54 · Xara, Oskar
But we really wanna be a company that publicizes and be able to deliver these products to a whole entire world. [00:36:59] S0: What is gonna be the customer experience? Let's say, I'm buying such a robot from you. Do I have to set it up myself, or how do you imagine this process?
00:37:08 · Xara
[00:37:08] S2: So this is a very interesting question. The the way we conduct our business is very different from any kind of business model. In fact, very soon in Tokyo, we're open up two robotic brothels by the end of this year. And we're also working with local Japanese partners to build sex robot hotel, infamous robots hotel. So in the future, instead of buying one just at home, you can also go to one of the offline places, spend time with robots. Right? So that's one way we're gonna advertise and promote this. Second thing is that we believe we're gonna show a lot of RoboPorn. We actually purchased a very interesting domain. It's called roboporn.com. This domain, we spent a fortune. We spent 12,000 USD in order to purchase domain, and domain was listed to a 180,000 USD. But we're able to snatch it from the owner for 12,000 USD. I think this domain rolepoint.com is gonna worth 10,000,000 in the future. The role point is gonna be a thing to stay and it's gonna be around. And I wanna go back to your questions. We believe that if we really wanna ship to the clients or consumer, like regular people just like us, I think the hardest thing is not the sales, but what happens after the sales? Because what if the robots kinda break down? Right? Let me explain. We believe in order for the robots to be a six thermal thing, there has to be ecosystem. There has to be a service center, basically. Because once in a while, the robots might break down. Once in a while, you probably wanna change to different body parts. Once in a while, you want... Probably wanna clean the robots. Once in a while, you probably wanna do routine check on the robots. And once in a while, your robots might break down. We come to your house and fix it for you. If it's broken down beyond repair, you send it back to our factory. We reset it for you. So from a customer perspective, we believe selling is actually not the hardest part, but maintaining the robots is more important than sales itself. But to answer your questions, we actually are in no positions. We are not rushing to market... Consumer market yet because we think in order for us to do it for consumer markets, the after service, the after sales is more important than sells itself. Because if a user purchase robots, he or she wants to return robots, there has to be some place to store robots.
00:38:58 · Xara, Oskar
If the robot's broken down, it has to be fixed somewhere. If the robot's dirty, it has to be cleaned somewhere. The robot industry is gonna be very similar to the car industry. If there's no service related to robots, I don't think it's sustainable. Ecosystem is very important for this to work. So in the future, there's an insomnia store where you can walk into one of our store and interact with the robots. In our insomnia store, obviously, you cannot have any kind of intimacy action with robots. But if you want intimacy actions, you can go to our insomnia hotel or our insomnia brothel you can spend the night with robots. So, that's the essence of... Yes. Please go ahead. [00:39:29] S0: At the beginning, was thinking about it, because any kind of robotics, modern robotics, not like industrial traditional robotics, is really hard to get traction on the market. This is actually one of the types of modern robotics where I would say it makes more sense, and it looks more coherent, because Bravel itself is not something entirely new. People already go there, and people already have these stalls, so having one with robots, you're reinventing the wheel. That's just what I'm saying. Exactly. The same thing for pornography, so people already watch porn, there's gonna be the demand for it, and it's gonna create this flywheel that potentially gets customers as well beyond this.
00:40:09 · Xara
[00:40:09] S2: You're right. So I I I think there's an important lesson here is that I wanna go back to the intention purpose. Because when you think about it, every single technological breakthrough, the first product market fit when it comes to technology has always been about intimacy, sex, and pornography. Right? Earlier days, when you look at videos, there's VHS, there's cassettes. Later on, there's DVD, there's an Internet, there's mobile Internet, there's AR glasses, and there's VR glasses. Every single big technological breakthrough, one of the first primary usage has always been about pornography or something sexual. And right now, it's 2026. It's a year of embodied robotics. Yeah. And you guys are doing amazing work with the podcast, talking to different robotics company. We really believe one of the first applications for robots is actually sex robots or intimacy robots because that's the natural history. That's the natural cycle in intensive technology in general. Right? When people buy their first Apple Glass, when people buy their first VR glasses, when people purchase their first DVD machine, when people first get on the Internet, what do they search for? Porn. And it's just a natural extension of the human fantasy because let's remember this. Sex has always been the most enduring and the most only recession proof. This is in human history. Has always been around. Ratho is not a new thing. Constitution is the oldest service industry in the history of humanity. And right now, we're just extending on the most basic human needs and turn it into a more full fledged machine that can fulfill people's own fantasy and desire.
00:41:29 · Leo
[00:41:29] S1: Yeah. Yeah. That's a pretty fair vision. Even in France, one of the most recent billionaire whose name is Xavier Niel, he's like the CEO and sole owner of one of the largest French internet service provider and he actually started his business as what we call pink telephone numbers. So phone numbers you call to kind of have phone sex before the Internet. Yeah. And that's what actually his first business that he used to finance the ISP business for that.