The Robotics Stack
00:37:08 · Xara
[00:37:08] S2: So this is a very interesting question. The the way we conduct our business is very different from any kind of business model. In fact, very soon in Tokyo, we're open up two robotic brothels by the end of this year. And we're also working with local Japanese partners to build sex robot hotel, infamous robots hotel. So in the future, instead of buying one just at home, you can also go to one of the offline places, spend time with robots. Right? So that's one way we're gonna advertise and promote this. Second thing is that we believe we're gonna show a lot of RoboPorn. We actually purchased a very interesting domain. It's called roboporn.com. This domain, we spent a fortune. We spent 12,000 USD in order to purchase domain, and domain was listed to a 180,000 USD. But we're able to snatch it from the owner for 12,000 USD. I think this domain rolepoint.com is gonna worth 10,000,000 in the future. The role point is gonna be a thing to stay and it's gonna be around. And I wanna go back to your questions. We believe that if we really wanna ship to the clients or consumer, like regular people just like us, I think the hardest thing is not the sales, but what happens after the sales? Because what if the robots kinda break down? Right? Let me explain. We believe in order for the robots to be a six thermal thing, there has to be ecosystem. There has to be a service center, basically. Because once in a while, the robots might break down. Once in a while, you probably wanna change to different body parts. Once in a while, you want... Probably wanna clean the robots. Once in a while, you probably wanna do routine check on the robots. And once in a while, your robots might break down. We come to your house and fix it for you. If it's broken down beyond repair, you send it back to our factory. We reset it for you. So from a customer perspective, we believe selling is actually not the hardest part, but maintaining the robots is more important than sales itself. But to answer your questions, we actually are in no positions. We are not rushing to market... Consumer market yet because we think in order for us to do it for consumer markets, the after service, the after sales is more important than sells itself. Because if a user purchase robots, he or she wants to return robots, there has to be some place to store robots.
00:38:58 · Xara, Oskar
If the robot's broken down, it has to be fixed somewhere. If the robot's dirty, it has to be cleaned somewhere. The robot industry is gonna be very similar to the car industry. If there's no service related to robots, I don't think it's sustainable. Ecosystem is very important for this to work. So in the future, there's an insomnia store where you can walk into one of our store and interact with the robots. In our insomnia store, obviously, you cannot have any kind of intimacy action with robots. But if you want intimacy actions, you can go to our insomnia hotel or our insomnia brothel you can spend the night with robots. So, that's the essence of... Yes. Please go ahead. [00:39:29] S0: At the beginning, was thinking about it, because any kind of robotics, modern robotics, not like industrial traditional robotics, is really hard to get traction on the market. This is actually one of the types of modern robotics where I would say it makes more sense, and it looks more coherent, because Bravel itself is not something entirely new. People already go there, and people already have these stalls, so having one with robots, you're reinventing the wheel. That's just what I'm saying. Exactly. The same thing for pornography, so people already watch porn, there's gonna be the demand for it, and it's gonna create this flywheel that potentially gets customers as well beyond this.
00:40:09 · Xara
[00:40:09] S2: You're right. So I I I think there's an important lesson here is that I wanna go back to the intention purpose. Because when you think about it, every single technological breakthrough, the first product market fit when it comes to technology has always been about intimacy, sex, and pornography. Right? Earlier days, when you look at videos, there's VHS, there's cassettes. Later on, there's DVD, there's an Internet, there's mobile Internet, there's AR glasses, and there's VR glasses. Every single big technological breakthrough, one of the first primary usage has always been about pornography or something sexual. And right now, it's 2026. It's a year of embodied robotics. Yeah. And you guys are doing amazing work with the podcast, talking to different robotics company. We really believe one of the first applications for robots is actually sex robots or intimacy robots because that's the natural history. That's the natural cycle in intensive technology in general. Right? When people buy their first Apple Glass, when people buy their first VR glasses, when people purchase their first DVD machine, when people first get on the Internet, what do they search for? Porn. And it's just a natural extension of the human fantasy because let's remember this. Sex has always been the most enduring and the most only recession proof. This is in human history. Has always been around. Ratho is not a new thing. Constitution is the oldest service industry in the history of humanity. And right now, we're just extending on the most basic human needs and turn it into a more full fledged machine that can fulfill people's own fantasy and desire.
00:41:29 · Leo
[00:41:29] S1: Yeah. Yeah. That's a pretty fair vision. Even in France, one of the most recent billionaire whose name is Xavier Niel, he's like the CEO and sole owner of one of the largest French internet service provider and he actually started his business as what we call pink telephone numbers. So phone numbers you call to kind of have phone sex before the Internet. Yeah. And that's what actually his first business that he used to finance the ISP business for that.
00:41:57 · Xara
[00:41:57] S2: That's great. I think a lot of people, especially a lot of tech entrepreneurs, whether it's in France or United States, a lot of their first business had to be something that's very unique. Right? I will give you example in China. In China, there's a there's a company called Tencent. Tencent is one of the biggest social network in China. Yeah. And the the CEO of Tencent is called Ma Huateng. Right? And initially, when he first first started Tencent, he built a social network, a product called QQ. He has to pretend to be a girl himself in order to attract new customers coming coming to your platform. So I think a a lot of tech companies, when they first started, they might start with something that tends to human nature. Right? Which is the desire for sex and companionship. And later on, it's more possible for us to evolve into more things because I I I wanna say there's a big ambition here. Eventually, we're not a sex toy company. We're not just like a sex robot company. Eventually, our robot is gonna walk off the bed. Eventually, it's gonna go to your garage. It's gonna go to... Into your kitchen. It's gonna wash your dish and clean your car, but there's no rush. Because there isn't really a model or platform for generalized robots yet. But starting with intimacy, let me ship thousands, millions of units inside Household first. Then later on with a software upgrade and OTA, maybe there's more functionality that comes out of it. But there's no rush because it's not there yet. The robotic brain, the chat to you moment has not arrived yet. For now, we only wanna make sure we we make it into a full business cycle before we expand the robot's intelligence capability.
00:43:18 · Leo, Xara
[00:43:18] S1: Yeah. And when you look at the robot... Humanoid robotics, I would say, industry as a whole right now, the main bottleneck, the main metric everybody looks at especially in China, I visited a bunch of more conventional humanoid robotics companies, if you could label them that way recently and the main metric they put forward in their speech and vision right now is the number of deployments and you might just very soon become the humanoid robotic company with the most deployments. [00:43:47] S2: Yes. Because [00:43:48] S1: if you have a large adoption, might just become, yeah, the first way in deployments for sure.