Decoder with Nilay Patel
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[00:59:36] S3: AI is great for lots of things. I think AI is going to enable individuals. Right? Like, we're gonna see a huge explosion of new companies. Like, you could start... I mean, Stanford students have always been entrepreneurial, but the number of my students who are now starting two, three, four person companies who are doing incredible things, who used to need to hire 50 or a 100 people and take a ton of venture capital is incredible. Right? So I think we're gonna continue to see that. One of the things we hopefully see is we start to see a a... We'll see a downtick in the number of major breaches at some point. We should hopefully see a downtick in the major CVEs that are wormable and that are in kind of the fundamental infrastructure pieces kernel. You know? Like I said, I want Linux to be rewritten, but hopefully, we see a downtick in, like, the Linux kernel and those other kinds of libraries, you know, OpenSSL, glibc, things like that. I haven't seen... Maybe I should vibe code this up, but I think it would be cool to have, like, an index of, like, where are we in this cycle Mhmm. Of of, like, an artificial index of all of these... You know, the DAO for all of the libraries of of of where we're going. Plus, you know, right now, patch Tuesday used to be, like, a 150, 200, got to 300, 600. I think the last one was 900 something, so we're geometrically growing. So it'd be nice to see Patch Tuesday start to go back down. Yeah. Apple patches are the same thing. Yep. You you inspired me. So I'm gonna I'm gonna create a Dow index for this of of the the the dark age index. Right? And then maybe we can publish it on The Verge.
01:01:13 · Nilay Patel, S3
[01:01:13] S2: Yeah. [01:01:13] S3: But I think these are the kinds of things that it would be nice to see a reversal, and what it would be especially nice to see is that the day... Or actually, like, thirty days before you get, like, the next version of OpenAI and Anthropic cyber models that you don't have this huge round of patches. Because what's happening is those guys are running their models against Microsoft's code, against a bunch of open source, and they're giving all the the bugs away, and you don't know where the bugs are coming from. Right? It's just like anonymous reports for a thousand bugs in the Linux kernel. And and then a month later, here's the new AsterCyber. And so if those get smaller and smaller every time, then it means that we're starting to reach some kind of steady state. [01:01:53] S2: You should definitely do that tracker. We will definitely publish it. Alex, it has been incredible to have you on the show. We'll have to talk again soon. [01:01:58] S3: Yeah. Thank you so much for... I think you do some of the best journalism on this stuff, and I really appreciate it.
01:01:58 · S3, Nilay Patel, S0, S1
[01:01:58] S3: Yeah. Thank you so much for... I think you do some of the best journalism on this stuff, and I really appreciate it. [01:02:04] S2: I'd like to thank Alex for joining me, thank you for checking out this episode of Decoder. I hope you enjoyed it. To get new episodes every Monday and Thursday, subscribe to our YouTube channel at Decoder Pod. Find us on TikTok and Instagram under Decoder Pod as well for more fun stuff we put out every If you like to let us know what you thought about this episode or really anything else at all, let us know. You can drop us an email at decoder@theverge.com. We really do read all the emails, or you can hang up directly on threads or blue sky. If you enjoy this episode, please send a link to it to someone you think you might like it as well. It really helps us grow the show, which you can subscribe to wherever you get your podcasts. Decoder is a production verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Show is produced by Greg Ott, Kate Cox, Nick Statt. Our editors are Xander Adams and Ursa Wright. Our editorial director is Kevin McShane. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. We'll see you next time. [01:02:46] S0: Support for the show comes from Engine. Running a small business means every dollar has to work hard. But if your team is still booking travel the old way, it's costing you more than you think. Engine is the fastest growing travel and spend platform in the country built specifically for businesses like yours. Book a [01:03:04] S1: trip in as little as two and
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