01:14:04 · Israel Slodowitz, Raz Matus, Molly O'Shea
[01:14:04] S0: It could be quite challenging. [01:14:05] S3: It is challenging. Mostly for my wife. When I get back home on the East Coast, I'm jet lagged. She doesn't like it, but, but it's part of the job. [01:14:13] S1: So there's a hot take, and it's with flight attendants. I wanna ask you both. Do you need flight attendants on private aviation? [01:14:23] S3: So it really depends on the customer's preference. This plane is totally certified to fly without one, and we usually don't have a flight attendant. But as soon as we get up to altitude away from the ground, we're pretty much free. Right? So we have three pilots on this plane, a captain, a first officer, and an autopilot. As soon as we're not task saturated, one of us can get out, and the passengers should never feel that they don't have a flight attendant. We cater. We make drinks. We clean. We entertain them. Everything that a flight attendant will do, we do the same.
01:15:00 · Israel Slodowitz, Molly O'Shea, Raz Matus
[01:15:00] S0: What do you think? I mean, that's that's exactly right. And I think that what we found is that most of our customers actually prefer not to have a flight attendant. We've had times where we've offered them, like, for free. Hey. We have a flight attendant on board. And they're like, no, we prefer not to have one. Like people want privacy. People like to just have their own space. Know, it's a part of flying private part of convenience of flying private is just having you having your own space, being able to just kind of, be be in your own element, you know, and and and moving your own rhythm. And I think having a flight man, just just follow-up a pay down. JSX. JSX. That's a JSX landing right there. Yeah. So I I think people just don't people prefer, like, quiet. I I I so that that's I think what what we see a lot. Some aircraft, like the bigger aircraft, are required to have flight attendants. So above a certain number of, like, seats on board, for safety reasons, have to have flight attendants to have, emergency exit training and stuff like that. Also, like, when you do long flights, making beds, meals, you know, it's nice to have, but 90% of the missions we have, like, people prefer no no flight in it. [01:15:57] S1: I'm really curious for both of your answers on this. I think I know your answer for sure, but what is the favorite type of plane that you've flown? [01:16:05] S3: I never had a bad plane. [01:16:08] S1: Okay.
01:16:08 · Molly O'Shea, Raz Matus
[01:16:08] S1: Okay. [01:16:08] S3: I like them all single engine props. I still tend to fly them quite often, just to keep the skills sharp. This is an amazing plane. I I owe my career to it. It will take you far and wide and also to places where you really can't go with anything else. It's it's great. It will go coast to coast. It will go into the mountains. It will go in the islands. This is the plane I like the most, and and I have my most experience on it. [01:16:38] S1: And it's two of everything, so it's super safe? [01:16:41] S3: Two of everything. If if something fails, we can get safely anywhere. No problem. If we're flying over mountains, over water, this plane is super redundant. They made over a thousand of these, which is tremendous in airplane terms. It's it's crazy, popular. Everywhere we go, there's at least another one parking right next to us. So it's a really good plane. [01:17:07] S1: What do you think people should look for when they're chartering or buying planes? [01:17:13] S3: There's a lot of technical stuff, but when you charter, small details. I I like to say that, when you go to a restroom at a restaurant, if the restroom is not clean, the kitchen isn't clean. So if the planes look good and they're tidy and they're clean, you can count on the people in the cockpit.
01:17:13 · Raz Matus, Israel Slodowitz, Molly O'Shea
[01:17:13] S3: There's a lot of technical stuff, but when you charter, small details. I I like to say that, when you go to a restroom at a restaurant, if the restroom is not clean, the kitchen isn't clean. So if the planes look good and they're tidy and they're clean, you can count on the people in the cockpit. [01:17:31] S0: That's a very good point. Like, you know, a lot times when you go on a charter, you'll open the drawers and stuff. You should do this on your next flight. You open the drawers and stuff, and you just see, like, it looks like a Walmart supercenter. There's just, you know, like, there's just, like, every type of snack there, and, like, there's just no there's no, like, rhyme or rhythm. There's nothing there's nothing you know, people just kinda it's just like a complete disaster. If you look at our plate, you'll just see everything is super clean. Everything's itemized. It tells you a lot about the company behind the scenes that's running it based on, like, how the drawers look. And and so it's just, like, something that we've been really drill drilling in our in our our crew for a very long time. [01:18:04] S1: So what is your favorite type of plane flying? You think you can guess.
01:18:04 · Molly O'Shea, Israel Slodowitz
[01:18:04] S1: So what is your favorite type of plane flying? You think you can guess. [01:18:07] S0: So what do you what do you what would you guess? Serious. There you go. Well? I I've had I definitely didn't sense this aircraft. Mean, I flew the Gulfstream g five fifty. It's an American built airplane. You could tell it's American built. It's like driving a GMC. Oh, no. Everything is just so big. Everything is like the throttle lever is like this big. It's like, you know, everything is just like even they have double, they have quadruple for everything. So I I really love that airplane. The Challenger is just an amazing airplane. I mean, was this was my first, like, real jet I ever flew, and, and it's such a capable, mission oriented airplane. But there's nothing like taking them a small little Cirrus and flying around the mountains and going to to small little airports. And, you know, there's nothing like really getting to experience and enjoy flying. You know, in these airplanes, you don't really enjoy flying as much because it's very, very process oriented. You get in the cockpit and they have a there's a script and a checklist, and you file the flight plan. The autopilot fly most of the time. It's very, very, like, man you know, not not very manual. You don't really get to enjoy flying. [01:19:02] S1: Okay. So we're on the tarmac. What is the most challenging plane to fly? What is the most difficult one? Challenging?
01:19:02 · Molly O'Shea, Raz Matus, Israel Slodowitz
[01:19:02] S1: Okay. So we're on the tarmac. What is the most challenging plane to fly? What is the most difficult one? Challenging? [01:19:10] S3: Yeah. I would guess, a tailwind, tailwheel. Sorry. A plane that has this is a tricycle, so it has one gear in the front and two in the back. Other most small airplanes, they have the one gear in the back, and that's very challenging, especially during taxi and landings. I don't have much experience on them, but I've tried it a few times. It is very challenging. [01:19:36] S1: By the way, I could tell when we landed that you were an air force pilot. It was a good landing? Yeah. It was [01:19:42] S3: Not Navy. [01:19:43] S1: It was great. I mean, we have it on film. We could show you. Couldn't even feel it, but I I mean, we were joking because there is a certain, I'm not going to name names, but there is a certain airline around here that is a, is a Navy landing every single time. It is so hard. [01:19:59] S3: It's called professionally firm. What [01:20:03] S1: do you think is the most challenging? [01:20:05] S0: To to fly? Yeah. I don't know. I flew on like a g one fifty once. [01:20:11] S3: They're pretty old. [01:20:12] S0: That was a pretty old airplane. I was like, I I didn't I I didn't fly it, but I saw the pilots flying it. It looked like they were they were sweating.