Sachin and Adam
00:04:54 · Adam
[00:04:54] S1: Yeah. And and, like, when we say good talent, it's like extraordinary talent. Like our video editor, John, he worked in like film production before. He had a lot of experience in a lot of different things. And like, I think out of everyone that made it to the final round of our process, like we had, you know, first application process, then we got people to send the Loom video, then we interviewed about 10 people. You know, all of them could have done the job really well, but what we really liked about John is he had taste. There's something I remember he said to us is he said like, everyone in The Philippines seems to like editing the Alex Hormozi style clips, and something he said was that that's overdone. And he said that, you know, a lot of people do that. We have room to experiment more with our creativity. And I think that's something that really spoke to us because I think skills are very easy to learn, but taste is very hard to, like, get in the long term. And I think that's something that we want to be doing with our content and something we've actually been reflecting on the last week, which is just like, I don't think we want to put anything out there that one doesn't change someone's life or two, we we don't think is like the best interview in that category of that person. And and this word we've been using a lot in conversation is seminal, like seminal writing, seminal pieces, things that aren't just in like the top news feed for that given day and then disappear in time, things that people can keep coming back to and are such high quality that they almost make you feel something when you consume them. Yeah. I think, like, that was, like,
00:06:14 · Sachin
[00:06:14] S0: a really big reflection point last week. So we did two episodes. One episode was with an investor in The States who's highly acclaimed. But the episode, it's our fault, but we had a lot of technical difficulties because we were using this new software platform, and it felt so protracted, and we didn't quite get into flow. So I don't think we're gonna release that, and we're gonna have to navigate how we kindly tell people that because that's just reality if you wanna have a really high quality bar. But then we did an episode on Friday with David Perell, and it went for, like, almost two hours, and we were talking to him after. And that episode, I'm gonna... I can't wait till we rewatch it. It fucking changed my life. It was such a deep conversation about career, ambition, god, relationships, psychology, everything. Like, it was sort of meant to be a tech style episode, but it wasn't. And you could tell that there was something special there, that there were conversations that he's a really big figure in the tech world. He's had done a lot of podcasts, but there were things that haven't been said before and questions that hadn't been asked. And, like, I remember very distinctly having this feeling mid episode where I was like, if you paid me... If you said I could never make over, like, $50,000 and all I had to do for the rest of my life was, like, sit in a room and interview interesting people like Dave, like, that would be, like... That would make me so happy. Like, those are the sort of conversations I fucking live for, and it was incredible.
00:07:31 · Adam, Sachin
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00:08:44 · Adam, Sachin
[00:08:44] S1: Yeah. I I 100% agree. I think also mid episode, I had this feeling of like, hey, we might actually be onto something here in the sense of, like, he said after that was one of the best conversations he's had. [00:08:55] S0: It was during the episode, and he was like, guys, this episode is going in an incredible direction. We need to cut the first twenty minutes and we need to go an hour hour over schedule. Yeah. He went like over two hours over schedule.
00:09:04 · Adam
[00:09:04] S1: Yeah. And he's a busy guy, so that's no little feats. But I think like something that we're constantly fighting against is like, does the world need more two 25 year old guys talking about tech? And I think that's something always in the back of the mind of my mind and what a lot of people have said to us, which is like rightly so. Like, I think if someone came to me and said, oh, like, I'm going full time on a podcast and we're talking about this and it's a very general thing. I'm not sure if I'd advise them to do it, but I think what we're finding is we're trying to niche down into what we do that's brilliant and what we do that can be world class. And I think that's part of the conversations we're having at the moment is like, even if we change our name, like that's a very live conversation right now is that we've had this name for the last four years, the Sachin and Adam show. In this direction we're going, and I think Day Pro validated that this is a direction that can be unique if we're at the highest quality bar and we can execute it really well, is like, do we then start changing things? And I think that's something that we're still reflecting on in the back of our minds. The other thing I've been thinking about a lot is I listened to this podcast with Tim Ferriss and Cal Newport. He's a deep work, the guy that wrote about deep work, he's actually a computer scientist as well. But they speak a lot about how it's actually not that hard to become an eight to nine out of 10 podcast interviewer. And Tim Ferriss actually reckons a lot of people, if they train for a year, that can get there. He thinks what's going to be the differentiator in the future is writing. And he said there's going to be a lot of podcasters that do really well, but he thinks the things that will be, you know, evergreen and stand out forever is really, really good writing because that's a trained skill that takes a long time to develop. Yeah.
00:10:39 · Sachin, Adam
[00:10:39] S0: I I don't... That's nothing new. Like, I think it's always been like that. Like, great writing has been a really difficult skill, to cultivate. And, like, there are... I mean, of course, there's so many seminal writing pieces. Like, whether you're talking about great literature, whether you're talking about modern books, like, even essays, you don't really name that many seminal podcasts, like that many seminal interviews, really just because of the form factor. And it's a really interesting point. And I think, like, in that podcast of Cal Newport, they talk a lot about, like, just doing extremely high quality work. And Dave Perrell, after our podcast, resonated the same things. He was like, just think about how can you produce, like, the highest quality thing of whatever you're doing in your domain and, like, why are you not pursuing that? And so I think we're talking a lot about, like, okay, do we just only do 10 out 10 out of 10 things and release it if it's 10 out of 10? But at the same time, if we're like a content business, then you're releasing a lot of things at the same time. So there's a bit of like a pool there Yeah. On both sides. [00:11:35] S1: I I think something that stood out to me is we actually asked Dave Perrell if he'd come on as an adviser because he was so motivated after that episode. We think he could be a massive unlock. I think, like, he he didn't have time to do it and maybe that's something we'll consider down the line. But he signed off on that email saying, like, keep your quality by extremely high, Dave.