Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
01:08:41 · Lenny Rachitsky, Emmanuel Ameisen
[01:08:41] S0: Is there a better phrase to use or is it just don't do that? Like, do they say? [01:08:46] S1: I don't know. I think to me the positive version is like being the moment, right? It's just like, just that I appreciate the appreciate the moment. There was a blog post recently I read that was, oh my freaking, it was something like enjoy the sandwich. I think it was literally the sense. I don't if you saw this or it was like somebody was like, yeah, like just you're eating a sandwich, you've eaten many sandwiches, enjoy the sandwich. You're in you're in, a a team meeting, you know, yeah, you've been in my... Like, like, enjoy... Like, be be in it and and sort of not looking looking towards the next thing. [01:09:13] S0: I did a meditation retreat once. It was a 10 silent retreat where you eat silently too and no one's talking, you just sit there and eat your food. And I just remember peeling an egg for like five minutes and just noticing every shell piece and just the smell of it all and it like, you almost... It's like hard to get into that mode, but it's such an interesting place to be where everything is just interesting. Like, wow. Yes. Egg versus just like, oh, stuff through my mouth. [01:09:39] S1: Yeah. Right. While you're like on Slack with your left hand, I'm like listening to a podcast at the same time. [01:09:45] S0: Oh, man. Okay. Final question. You study AI all day. You're watching AI, how it thinks. If if an AI were to look inside your brain, what would what would be surprising? What would it see that might surprise people?
01:09:45 · Lenny Rachitsky, Emmanuel Ameisen
[01:09:45] S0: Oh, man. Okay. Final question. You study AI all day. You're watching AI, how it thinks. If if an AI were to look inside your brain, what would what would be surprising? What would it see that might surprise people? [01:09:57] S1: I mean, surely my deepest, darkest secrets. But what are the [01:10:01] S0: Let's get into it. Let's get into it. [01:10:02] S1: Oh, man. I've always been like a bit of a a jokester or or that's just how I like both how I live and how I cope. I just like think that even in serious situations, should aim to kind of have some levity. And so I think if you looked inside my brain, you'd definitely be surprised that like basically at any given moment, I'm just like focusing on some random thing that is funny. You know, I'll be in a in a serious meeting and I'll be like, oh, yeah. But, you know, like, isn't it kinda random that you're, like, whatever, like, wearing this random thing or something? It's just, like, I have these intrusive thoughts that I that I keep out, but that are all usually, like, just bad jokes. And sometimes as you've heard today, unfortunately they come out. So I'm sorry for those. That's probably the most surprising thing. [01:10:48] S0: I love that. Emmanuel, thank you so much for being here. Final question, how can listeners be useful to you?
01:10:48 · Lenny Rachitsky, Emmanuel Ameisen
[01:10:48] S0: I love that. Emmanuel, thank you so much for being here. Final question, how can listeners be useful to you? [01:10:53] S1: Just do some interp, read some, read about how the models work. I mean, mentioned like Dorker's write up, I think it was great as well. I think, you know, it's just, this is such a new field like both interp and like AI and LLMs. And I think it just benefits from people engaging and being informed. Like read things, there's more that you would want to know about how these models work that we haven't figured out, you can reach out to me. I'm on variety of social social social platforms like probably can reach out to me on x. [01:11:26] S0: And we'll link to some of the videos that you guys have put out that describe a lot of the stuff we've been talking about like J space and things like that. There's some really beautiful videos your team has made. I don't know who does that, but they're really cool. Yeah, [01:11:36] S1: this is we partner with our our design team. So all credit goes to them for the for the cool videos. [01:11:41] S0: Amazing. Alright. Well, thank you again, Emmanuel. Thank you so much for doing this. This was amazing. [01:11:45] S1: Thanks, Lenny. Yeah. This was super fun.
01:11:45 · Emmanuel Ameisen, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:11:45] S1: Thanks, Lenny. Yeah. This was super fun. [01:11:47] S0: Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this valuable, you can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Also, please consider giving us a rating or leaving a review as that really helps other listeners find the podcast. You can find all past episodes or learn more about the show at lenny'spodcast.com. See you in the next episode.