00:48:46 · Parag Agrawal
[00:48:46] S2: I spend a fair amount of time thinking about today, proactive agents and always on agents, how that changes the compute world and how that changes the web. So the question I think there to me is, and we've now built a bunch of systems which some people are starting to use around this notion of a proactive web. Or I've been out there saying the web will go from pull to push. So far, as humans, our primary way of searching the web was just us going and searching on Google. For the rare few, you use Google alerts. Frankly, they work. People tried to build like Google Now and a bunch of these things which would send you notifications. Nothing really worked on the web in terms of being proactive. I think with agents and the cost of intelligence going down, it is going to work. And so, now if you imagine an instant or news, implicitly understanding your world and your life, and being able to set up essentially really really high signal, high precision, high recall, alerts on everything that changes on the entire web to know when your agent needs to act on something on your behalf. So, something changes in the world or something might be happening. What do you need to do as a result? Or does that change your plans? Or does that change your actions? How we allocate compute in that world is a problem I'm currently obsessed with Because the web is really large. Right? Like there's a trillion pages out there. A bunch of them are changes changing every day. Most of it is junk. No matter how cheap you make compute, we have not enough compute to compute everything. So now we need to be really smart at prioritizing our compute over everything that is changing on the web. So that more compute can be spent on things which are actually actionable rather than junk changes. The rate of change of the web is also going to dramatically increase. You are starting to see that like people are publishing with agents. You can like the EUSEO businesses like churning out agent generated content on the web, which just means the rate of change on the web is increasing, which means the job of a search engine is to pull the signal from the noise as potentially more noise gets created.
00:51:34 · Molly O'Shea, Parag Agrawal
[00:51:34] S1: How do you think about data centers in space? [00:51:38] S2: I wish I knew more about it. I hope they work. [00:51:43] S1: Have you gone down any of these rabbit holes in this compute? [00:51:47] S2: I haven't. I haven't gone down the data centers in space rabbit hole. I do think we need compute. Yeah. I've gone down a little bit of the how sovereigns will participate in the data center. That is fascinating to me about how that will play out. [00:52:06] S1: Well, one of our partners is Brex and they're all about performance and spending smarter moving faster. I take this topic in the personal way. So I do think performance is a matter of who you spend your time around. Some people say it's your closest five people. Some people think it's like your mentor, people who inspire you. For your career, tremendous career, very interesting. I'm so curious, who is that person or those people for you?
00:52:06 · Molly O'Shea, Parag Agrawal
[00:52:06] S1: Well, one of our partners is Brex and they're all about performance and spending smarter moving faster. I take this topic in the personal way. So I do think performance is a matter of who you spend your time around. Some people say it's your closest five people. Some people think it's like your mentor, people who inspire you. For your career, tremendous career, very interesting. I'm so curious, who is that person or those people for you? [00:52:34] S2: My wife is, her name is Vinita. I was an engineer at Twitter when we got to know each other. So if you think of the part of my career where I've done well that people know about, It's mostly her. She is a superwoman. She is hyper ambitious. And I was ambitious, but I think she has driven my ambition even higher. Like, I have always aspired to be the top X in the world at anything I do. That's the only way. I was driven to do that for math, I was driven to do that for physics, I was driven to do that for computer science research. And I think I got there for all of those. But I don't think I would have thought I was capable of this until she pushed me. And then I was like, yeah, I think if you care enough about something, I think you can go become top 10 in the world at anything. Now the top one is a whole different field. But I think, for me, it's like the standard setter is my wife. She is a physician. She practices still. She is an investor at Andreessen Horowitz. She's done a startup. She does healthcare. She does biotech. She works really hard and is an amazing mom and wife.
00:52:34 · Parag Agrawal, Molly O'Shea
[00:52:34] S2: My wife is, her name is Vinita. I was an engineer at Twitter when we got to know each other. So if you think of the part of my career where I've done well that people know about, It's mostly her. She is a superwoman. She is hyper ambitious. And I was ambitious, but I think she has driven my ambition even higher. Like, I have always aspired to be the top X in the world at anything I do. That's the only way. I was driven to do that for math, I was driven to do that for physics, I was driven to do that for computer science research. And I think I got there for all of those. But I don't think I would have thought I was capable of this until she pushed me. And then I was like, yeah, I think if you care enough about something, I think you can go become top 10 in the world at anything. Now the top one is a whole different field. But I think, for me, it's like the standard setter is my wife. She is a physician. She practices still. She is an investor at Andreessen Horowitz. She's done a startup. She does healthcare. She does biotech. She works really hard and is an amazing mom and wife. [00:54:23] S1: That's amazing. So you guys have a nice little competitive dynamic. [00:54:26] S2: Yes. Yes. Yes. I think I am privileged that when I go to a lot of things, like people use me to access her. [00:54:35] S1: Really? [00:54:36] S2: Oh, all the time. Like, people will come to me to figure out how to get me to forward an email to her.
00:54:36 · Parag Agrawal, Molly O'Shea
[00:54:36] S2: Oh, all the time. Like, people will come to me to figure out how to get me to forward an email to her. [00:54:42] S1: Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Well, that's a really great call out. I wasn't expecting that. Why do you think partner selection or who you choose as a partner is so important?
00:54:42 · Molly O'Shea, Parag Agrawal
[00:54:42] S1: Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Well, that's a really great call out. I wasn't expecting that. Why do you think partner selection or who you choose as a partner is so important? [00:54:53] S2: I thought probably the most important decision in life. And like you, as you said, right, like you... Your peer group, like I was fortunate growing up to have like a really crazy, weird outlier of a peer group. Like all of my friends were essentially kids of nuclear scientists in India. And everyone was like, Okay, I'm going to be the best at whatever we try to be. And so there was this ambitioncompetitive expectation all around. And so if you surround yourself, and then I went to college, and my college was the most competitive. And I went to grad school, was the most competitive. So you surround yourself in that and like you kind of surprise yourself by being around high expectations. So when you... Like this is what now everyone's talking about, right? Like you build a team, you have high talent density, it's a superpower. If you don't hire outliers, you don't get outliers. If you hire only outliers, you get only outliers. There's a lot of self selection that happens. I've been fortunate to go through that journey and been like, I got started in life with that kind of peer group. And then you kind of won't ever let yourself not be in that peer group. And that percolates into like your partner selection, which then further drives things. So it's like kind of a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.