00:09:42 · Justin Mares, Daisy Wolf
That's not where I land. But I think that's like a best case scenario. In the worst case, I think you could make a very compelling argument that seed oils are among the chief reasons for the massive and rampant chronic disease crisis that we see today. So yeah, I think they're like very, very smart to avoid. But I really, really do think that like for so many of these things, the lens that the average person does not have and think about the food system is the quality lens. And like, we say, is gluten with bread good or bad? Or is sugar good or bad? Is chicken good or bad? I really think that the thing that people are not thinking about is the quality of this stuff matters a tremendous degree. Freshly milled, well sourced, like all this sort of... Like, bread like that is a totally different product than buying Wonder Bread from the center of the grocery store. Yet we call them both bread and say, like, categorically, you should avoid Wonder, which I think is kind of a mistake. [00:10:38] S2: What's the most indulgent thing or thing that's, like, bad for your health that you do with some regularity? [00:10:44] S1: Oh, man. I think... So, again, on the quality thing, like, I've recently been totally into this. It's called Alecs, a l e c s, a two. They have this, like, regenerative ice cream that is insanely good. And so my wife and I have been having, like, having that a couple days a week recently, and it's, you know, phenomenal. Like, incredibly well sourced, incredibly high quality, but definitely an indulgence. [00:11:09] S2: I forgot to ask you about protein.
00:11:09 · Daisy Wolf, Justin Mares
[00:11:09] S2: I forgot to ask you about protein. [00:11:12] S1: Yeah. [00:11:13] S2: Do we all need a 100 grams a day of protein? How many grams of protein do you get on an average I
00:11:19 · Justin Mares
[00:11:19] S1: I think that this is one of those things that is really person dependent. Like, probab... Like, a a man's needs are different from a protein standpoint than a woman's need. A pregnant woman's needs for protein are different than, like, you know, someone who's not pregnant. And so and also, like, it varies often by activity level. And so if you are, like, active, weight training, trying to get some movement in, all these sorts of things, I think that you should, you know, improve... Increase your protein requirements in in line with that. Like, I probably have... I don't track it super, super tightly, although I probably should. But I probably get somewhere in the neighborhood of, like, a 120 to a 150 grams of proteins a day. Like, I will have, most days some sort of protein powder shake, and then every day I'll have like one to two cups of bone broth. And so that's like 50 grams right there, and that's not very calorie dense. And so that's outside of like eating any other food. The other thing that I think is very important from a protein standpoint is everyone is eating the same types of protein. And so when you're thinking about eating protein, you're like almost always getting your protein from cuts of muscle meat. So like ground beef, steak, chicken, know, salmon, whatever. What I think that most people miss, and if you look at like hunter gatherer diets or ancestral diet, they would sort of get a full spectrum of amino acids and many different types of protein in their diet, and get a lot more collagen, a lot more gelatin, a lot more glycine, lot more of these other sorts of proteins and amino acids that are so key in building a very healthy gut, skin, joints, the like. That is almost entirely missing in the average person's diet today. And so I think that something that people get a lot of... Like a very high ROI thing to introduce into your diet is some sort of like glycine gelatin and collagen supplementation, either in the form of whole foods, which would be like, honestly, like bone broth and stuff like that. Or you can get very, very high quality gelatin and collagen supplement.
00:13:20 · Daisy Wolf, Justin Mares
[00:13:20] S2: Talk to us about supplementation. [00:13:23] S1: Yeah. [00:13:23] S2: What do you take every day? When do you take it? Why do you take it?
00:13:26 · Justin Mares
[00:13:26] S1: Yeah. So I think that this is... This very... It it very much depends on the person and what you're trying to work on. Like, if you get function or superpower, like, you can understand your blood work basically and look at what are the things that you're trying to, you know, treat or burst, prevent, whatever. And so for me, I think that there's a couple buckets that are really important. We talked about protein. I really do think that like, from an ROI standpoint, increasing your your gelatin and collagen intake is gonna be one of the highest ROI health inventions that almost anyone can make. Because almost everyone is, like, clinically deficient in these sorts of, in these sorts of protein. Secondly, I think that, there's something called the MTHFR mutation. It's a mutation that thirty to forty percent of people have. That means that you have a harder time, like, methylating and and sort of breaking down, clearing compounds from the body. So I have that mutation. So I take what's called a methylated B vitamin complex. That seems to help a lot in terms of not feeling like brain fog or, you know, allergies or anything like that. I take that every day. I take, Maui Nui, the deer company that I talked about earlier. They have a organ blend, basically. That's a blend of, like, liver, kidney, spleen, I think. Organs, basically. Just dried up. I take that every day. It's... Some people call it, like, nature's multivitamin. It's incredibly nutrient dense. It tastes horrible. And so I tend not to eat liver, although some people do. And then, what else do I take? And then, actually, I recently started, in the last couple months, taking a... I spent a lot of time on a screen. You know, I know it's like not the healthiest thing, but it's... We're building a company, and that's what it takes. And so I take this, Thorne product for... That helps with like macular degeneration. It's basically like to improve your eyesight, and that helps a lot, which is kind of interesting. And then lastly, for almost everyone, you know, people get very concerned about their lipid, their like heart markers. You know, cardiovascular disease, number one killer of American. And so, many people have, especially if they get their blood work back, they're like, oh, my LPA or my APO B or my LDL are high from a risk standpoint.
00:15:39 · Justin Mares
I think that that is like a very, very smart thing to manage. And so I actually... I take this supplement. It's an enzyme called nattokinase. It's basically like... It's an enzyme that comes from fermented soybeans. It's a very popular... A food called natto in Japan, which is very popular. And so this is, I think for me, like, one of the highest bang for your buck kind of supplements that you can take generally, especially if you're concerned about heart health. And so, it really matters, the efficacy and the dosage. And so I take this brand called Toku, that has TOKU, which has like the effective dose, that research has shown works lit... Like slightly better than statin for preventing and breaking down, arterial plaque, which, you know, ultimately is what leads to heart heart attack. So that's kind of my my life supplement stat. I really think that the the right thing to do is basically look at get your blood work done, look at areas that you're deficient. Also, frankly, like, how do you feel? How's your energy? If your energy is bad or your cognition is slow, maybe you wanna take, like, certain sub supplements that would help with that. If you wanna improve your digestion, like, there's TEDCON, like, other sorts of things that you could kind of experiment with taking. But I think it's it's very, very personal. And the biggest thing that I would do, frankly, is, like, get your labs done, put them in chat GBT or something, and be like, hey, based on this, what supplement intervention should I consider running for the next ninety days, hundred eighty days? And then retest. And so I've kind of done that loop a while and now just take supplements mostly for maintenance and trying to, like, feel good and either prevent things that I... That I'm aware of, or just general risk factors or, you know, work on things like improving my methylation.