The Future Of Less Work
00:21:03 · Nirit Cohen, Anthony Trucks
[00:21:03] S0: look Yeah, I'm paying you for four hours, right? That's what it means, you're working for me, right? [00:21:08] S1: Yeah, exactly. So that's kind of, I don't know if it's more of an individual company kind of thing there, but I would say if it's something where you have the ability to do your job in those eight hours of work, can get it done in four, I believe you should be able to use a four for whatever you want. That's my opinion personally. That's how I have my team function. Like they have tasks to get done. We got to get these things going. I don't give them like, I need eight hours every day of this. I need this job to be done by this date. If we can get it all done, cool. If not, that's a problem. But the answer to that is that's their choice. Now, I don't I don't know what you do because I believe that people who are entrepreneurial, it's kind of part of their, like, natural DNA to create and build. So if they build something on the side, like, it should be on their time. But that's the thing is when when is it their time? [00:21:52] S0: Yeah. Yeah. But if we circle back to, I think, what you also said is people tend to say, I don't have time. And I think part of the response, I'm bringing this back to the the changing world of work, right, is you have... We have tools these days that you have to put in the time to learn to do things in less time. [00:22:12] S1: And once [00:22:13] S0: you do that, you free up time, and then you have to put it back in to the next thing that you couldn't do or can now do, or will be able to do tomorrow.
00:22:13 · Nirit Cohen, Anthony Trucks
[00:22:13] S0: you do that, you free up time, and then you have to put it back in to the next thing that you couldn't do or can now do, or will be able to do tomorrow. [00:22:23] S1: I see where you're going, a 100. Kind of the role that I take as a CEO of my company. And it's not something that I... Nobody else can do, which is I realize there's certain things I have as gaps between, you know, me and where I want to go, something I got to pick up, something I got to learn. And yeah, you're right. I have to then sometimes spend some time, which is sometimes hours or a full course or something to learn how to do that better or faster, more effective or more efficient. So I may read a book on this, which may be an eight hour book, right? And I gotta listen to the audio book, but I'm doing this instead of eat up some time. But now I go, okay, that eight hours taught me how to make this thing I do every single day for an hour to get it down to twenty minutes. So now I get forty minutes a day back, but I just spend eight hours to get that down. So the idea is yes, there's going to be dance in there, but I think that is literally how life works. I think there's a way that you come into something, it's the natural piece of almost, it's like getting a new phone. It's like, oh, I wanna get a new phone. I gotta learn a new operating system, update stuff. Yeah. But then you have a faster, better phone. So there's a little bit of that give, right? So yeah, think that's a natural part of how we do stuff.
00:23:23 · Nirit Cohen, Anthony Trucks
[00:23:23] S0: Yep. And if we kind of circle back to your videos and you tell that story, right, about how you started them, and it was... I'm I'm pretty sure it was very uncomfortable in the beginning. Over here. They probably were nowhere near as good as they are today. [00:23:37] S1: They got made fun of, all the fun stuff. [00:23:39] S0: How do you... So I was gonna ask you why you started and maybe even more important, why you stuck with it.
00:23:48 · Anthony Trucks
[00:23:48] S1: Yeah. Two reasons for each one. So the first reason was I wanted in the beginning to have the ability to speak extemporaneously. Answer questions like this, talk about anything I wanted to, educate in real time. You can put me on a stage right now. I can rock for an hour. The only reason is because I practice. Now in the beginning, I didn't know how to do this. So I was like, I want to learn how to do this. And so it was a big piece of it. It's like, I just want to have this learning piece. Other part of it at the time was I wanted to enter the world with my thoughts. I want to share ideas to have hopefully someone noticing and go, that's valuable for me and be able to build that side. The other part of it is the consistency. Now, I've noticed that for me, a lot of people come across and go, Anthony, I'm not consistent enough to do and commit to something every day. And I go, but you're missing the point. It's not that you are consistent already, it's that you need something, a catalyst, a sharpening stone to get you consistent. That's what I chose this for. Because I also realized that for me, wanted to stay consistent and why I still do it is, I am a guy that identifies as being a person that teaches identity. Therefore, are certain parts of my identity that must be intact and continue to stay intact to have the, I think credibility, but also the confidence to lead that charge. And so this is one of those things where it's the longest thing I've been doing. I've been... Before that I did something for thirteen thirty three straight days. It was, I think, like three point six five years. I think we're about, or we have almost surpassed ten years of a video every single day or weekday. And so at a certain point, it's who I am. That's why I keep doing it. It's who I am to do it. Yeah. If I didn't do it, it wouldn't be as much of who I am. Now as much that might seem simple or stupid or, you know, just minute, it's fine. But for some people, the same thing for how they give their wife or their husband a kiss before they go to work, or they say hi to everybody on the way in, you know, when they get to the office. Like, there's certain things that are just who you are. So why keep doing this? Because it's who I am to do it.
00:25:41 · Nirit Cohen
[00:25:41] S0: Fabulous. So, Anthony, I always wrap up with the same question for a question instead of an answer. What do you think is the question we should be asking ourselves about the future of work?
00:25:53 · Anthony Trucks
[00:25:53] S1: Oh, it's a question I ask myself too, because we live in a world that's ever changing. I mean, there's so many new things. It is mind boggling to spin. I think the question that I would ask, which maybe would be the one everybody else would ask, would be close to the idea of what is it that I want to be experiencing life like in the next ten years? Because I know that there's these perspectives. My best friends got a nine to five, they'll retire in I think like sixteen years or something like this. And he's like, you know, sixteen more years. And I'm like, oh man, it's a long time. And the dance of it is I look at the experience I want of life. Because if my experience desire wise becomes simple or smaller, then I may stop what I'm doing altogether. If my house is empty in two years, and I'm a father of three kids that are off into college at that point, do I want to keep doing the speaking thing or the coach? I don't know what it looks like, but I do know this. When I look at the future, I don't want to be confined in a world that is so vastly different than anybody else in past history that doesn't have to be confined. Meaning in this world nowadays, if me and you want to meet, I could fly to you and be there by tomorrow, maybe today, right? If we wanted to go to see something on the other side of the world, we could hop on a plane and do this. A hundred years ago, this wasn't as possible for people financially or anyway. So it's like, we've done this interesting window of time. And then as work progresses, you can have multiple weird off the wall jobs that are paying you money doing things. That it's like, why would you not explore the ability to do that, to live life experientially in a way that human beings never had before? So I think my question is more of what do you want your life to experientially look like in the next ten years? And I want to build towards that. And I'm not worried about the what is going on right now most. It's like what's happening now when will I see something that provides that ability? And I'll work towards that.