Dream Machines: Physical AI, Robotics, Being Human
00:42:04 · Lara Sophie Bothur
[00:42:04] S0: It's so weird. Um, but so yeah, um, AI avatars, AI influencers. Um, I mean, I see that. I think I have an AI avatar. I created. Yeah, with Synthesia in London. And it was funny because I had, I guess, three minutes of talking about something angry, funny, luckily, and then sadly. And then it was super weird because I felt like a weird actor because I always repeated that again and again. So it can collect my gestures and emotions and then also how I move, how I speak, whatever. And I used the avatar already because I was on summer vacay and I just wanted to say, bye, I'm on vacay. And I was already on vacay in the bikini and I didn't want to get dressed up for a video. So I was like, okay, let's... And I call my avatar Miss Sophie because I created it in London. Yeah, like my second name was Sophie. And so she did that. And I kind of just got the video. And that was nice. But I also marked it as AI content, you know, I think it's important if you do so You need to be very transparent that it's AI generated and you always need to take care of people and imagery rights because there's so much content out there where people abuse imagery of politicians, for example, or they edit themselves in Film sceneries with Cameron Diaz or whatever. And does Cameron Diaz want to be in all those videos? I think not. And so you always punish those human and imagery rights there. And so this is not allowed. And actually, so many people ignore that right now with AI. And then also I see a lot of AI influencers that are not signing it as AI. And I think this is misleading into this very artificial world. Sorry for always coming back to your daughter, but if Chloe is 16 and she sees perfect AI women out there on social media, maybe it makes her not feel better. I also heard about a study that Especially girls who are on social media are having a 30% higher depression rate with every hour they use more social media. And I think AI can enhance that into And so, yeah, even more self-criticism and whatever. So I think what is very important in that field is transparency is key, you know, always mark that, take care of the rights. And then I think those brands who like really value being human will always have human influencers. Like myself or others.
00:45:22 · Lara Sophie Bothur, Evan Helda
And I think that being human is one of the highest good in the future and of the highest goods because, yeah, of course, it's also less expensive to create an AI avatar and companies really need to decide. I think where it makes sense is, for example, in customer journeys, in shopping experiences, Where you want to have a more individualized, personalized shopping, for example, or in conversations that can become more personal. But I think humanity and getting humans in the loop is a luxury good in the future. Also, when you think about workforce, I mean, I have just heard from Jensen that in the future, he wants to have NVIDIA and just to be 75 employees. Yeah, and the rest will be- He said that? He said that at his conference. That's pretty bold. It's quite bold, but it also should make us think about it. And this is also another trend I have heard at Amy Webb. Do you know Amy Webb? She's a futurist. [00:46:42] S1: Yeah, I do know her. [00:46:43] S0: And she talked about, I think that was also interesting, and the emotion around all sourcing was also something she mentioned, but the other thing is this human acceleration. And so, for example, what she said is, if I use AI for my work, I'll be, for example, 11 and a half hours faster than yourself. If I use AR glasses, I can understand 20 more languages than you. And if I have a smart bed, I can also maybe sleep three hours better than yourself makes me a 2.2 times better person than you. [00:47:21] S1: Wow. That's a great way to frame that.
00:47:21 · Evan Helda, Lara Sophie Bothur
[00:47:21] S1: Wow. That's a great way to frame that. [00:47:24] S0: Yeah. And it's like, it's like super, and it shows where this word could have to. And I think that's important that we take a look at those trends in the future, not only right now, but what, what does that mean for our society, for our word? And that goes back to the tech translation thing, because those people who are not using tech will not be part of this. But then also some people say, We can free our time to be more human as soon as we use tech. But I think this is also a little bit of a lie because I think with tech, we just speed up more and more. And then I think, what for? Is that a 2.2 times word afterwards? Is the word rotating faster afterwards? Why do we need to speed up like hell? What is the goal? [00:48:21] S1: What do you [00:48:22] S0: think about it? [00:48:26] S1: It was a powerful thought and think it's the perfect answer to the sort of question we've been dancing around of what's lost in translation or how do we create the white mirror, not the black mirror. I think if we can use language and frame things, it's always tying it back to the simple idea of How to better yourself, better versions of yourselves, more, more real versions of yourself, more productive versions of yourself, more rested versions of yourself. Like that's what everyone really wants.
00:48:26 · Evan Helda, Lara Sophie Bothur
[00:48:26] S1: It was a powerful thought and think it's the perfect answer to the sort of question we've been dancing around of what's lost in translation or how do we create the white mirror, not the black mirror. I think if we can use language and frame things, it's always tying it back to the simple idea of How to better yourself, better versions of yourselves, more, more real versions of yourself, more productive versions of yourself, more rested versions of yourself. Like that's what everyone really wants. [00:48:57] S0: Isn't that what everyone wants? Isn't the new perfection the unperfection? Because everything is just sad. It's like a better version of ourselves, a better one, a better one, a better one. But what if I'm weak one day? [00:49:09] S1: Maybe the word better is the wrong word, but it's so, cause today. Being better is so hard. It takes so much work. And a lot of people don't have the skills to be better. They don't have the natural ability to do certain things. Maybe they're injured or whatever it is. So maybe it's something around better. This is a way to not just be better, but to be better and do it easier and not be better, but to enjoy life more. So maybe it's about enjoyment than it is betterment. Because I think betterment could be an input to enjoyment, in a sense. [00:49:53] S0: Yeah, the question is, in what do we want to be better, you know? [00:49:58] S1: Yeah, yeah. [00:49:59] S0: Well, I think that's the thing.
00:49:59 · Lara Sophie Bothur, Evan Helda
[00:49:59] S0: Well, I think that's the thing. [00:50:00] S1: It's so cool is that this stuff is so personalized. Like products, historically, have been consumer products. It's been so hard to build for the individual. You're building for a subset or the masses. So maybe that's where the magic lies is that it's been so hard to be better because self-help books are never for one person. They're for a general audience usually. The best self-help books, when you read a good self-help book, it resonates with you because you have a shared experience. It feels like it's customized to you. And so, but then like the worst self-help books, these are like general hand wavy statements, comments you've heard a million times. And so maybe the betterment here is just these Hyper-customized, personalized ways to make the things you want to do less challenging, more accessible, and therefore your life more enjoyable. And during that, I try to not use the word better the entire time.
00:50:56 · Lara Sophie Bothur, Evan Helda
[00:50:56] S0: I think it's also the work we are living, that it's always about being the better version of yourself. And it's just you and yourself. And it's not a competition, but I think what is good is that Everything right now we are saying is that it's in our hands. As we always say, I think everyone is always ending with that, but it's like, you really need to decide how much you're going to use technology or not. What is your focus? But I think you can just decide that as soon as you understand it, how it can help you or not. But what I also see is that, what is that? Where there's movement, there's a counter movement. And what I also feel is that You know, the attention span is going down so much with like social media. I think Gen Alpha has a decision span of 0.4 seconds, like whether they decided to look at the content or not, which is 0.4. I believe it. I was scrolling [00:52:08] S1: the other day and I was scrolling around someone's content, just looking at their thumbnails. I wasn't even looking at them. I was just trying to figure out which video to watch. And I would, I would hover for literally like half a second each Sunday. I'm like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I was just so scattered as I was doing it. It was terrible.