Sachin and Adam
00:21:55 · Sachin
[00:21:55] S0: a moment like last week or the week before where we were like, we've genuinely hired someone world class. I don't know if it was, you know, completely on us. Like, I think it was a bit of an accident as well that we found someone this good. And it's like, how can we use this... How can we make this time with us like exponential for his life? Like, we want John to be paid like a world class wage in the future. We want him to have equity in us. We want him to like do amazing things. And I think that's like a superpower we have where it's like our culture doesn't feel like hierarchical at all. It literally just feels like we're all on the same level. Cause we're not that old. Right? It's like we don't have these, I don't know, learned hierarchies that you get when you've been working for ten, fifteen years about the way things should be done. We've like both been exposed to a variety of cultures. We've taken things from them. We've also tried to, like, from first principles, invent what is the culture we want to work in, and what is the culture we think will do the best work? And not many organizations get a chance to actually do that. So that's exciting. Yeah. But the... I think the thing that's, like, contrasting with moving really fast is that, like, media takes time. And it's like we had these expectations, honestly, like, you can't release a podcast episode every day. We... There's a lot of things that are coming and that will be released by the time this episode is out, but it's like, you know, these things take time to build. No one has been an overnight success in media. So it's like, although we want to move really fast, we also recognize that it will take maybe three years to get there, but we also recognize we need to get revenue for the bigger business before that. So there's like these contrasting timelines that we have to work through and maybe like innovate around makes it exciting. And I think we both feel that we're moving into this new kind of this new realm of intensity.
00:23:35 · Adam, Sachin
[00:23:35] S1: Yeah. Yeah. And the team's growing. Like, we've just made our second hire. A lovely woman in The Philippines. We've got a new intern, Anastasia joining us, just has an extraordinary mind. Yuri's coming back from The States and, like, all these incredible people around us. And that's, yeah, that's when you start to feel really fulfilled. [00:23:51] S0: Yeah. It's been a good launch week. Anything that you wanna do more of in your life holistically rather than just work wise? I was thinking about this yesterday, like I don't feel like my soul has been like taken care of. Like I was reading some New York articles and stuff, I was like, everything we do seven days a week is like towards a goal. And I want to try to do things that are just for the sake of themselves. But you're still relatively balanced. Like, you go to salsa during the week. [00:24:21] S1: Yeah. You have a girlfriend. Yeah. You exercise. You're you're good with family time. Yeah. Still relatively balanced. Yeah. Do you do you feel like that? Yeah. No.
00:24:21 · Adam, Sachin
[00:24:21] S1: Yeah. You have a girlfriend. Yeah. You exercise. You're you're good with family time. Yeah. Still relatively balanced. Yeah. Do you do you feel like that? Yeah. No. [00:24:30] S0: I I feel relatively balanced. I think it's just more like just doing things that are like... Or just even consuming content that's more artful and not always just like optimizing. I'm just very aware of like, you know, this time we're in where, like, we're the very start of that business is probably gonna be more meaningful than when we, like, become a $100,000,000 company. Like, this is the times that really matter. So it's like, how can I be present with it? And how can I also, like, pay homage to the the different parts of life that ultimately make you better at your work as well? If you just consume Alex Hormozi content all day, don't think we're gonna create create brilliant media, make it a good few strategies. But if we consume like the New Yorker and great old films and like, I was actually... I almost bought a thousand dollar camera last night, but I didn't because I don't have enough money. But it's like one of the ones that it's a digital camera, but it like has like a film like aesthetic because I'm really into that aesthetic at the moment. But yeah, like I think all those things actually make us better at our jobs. 100%. Yeah. For me, [00:25:28] S1: I think it's just like more time with friends and people. [00:25:31] S0: Do you have friends anymore?
00:25:31 · Sachin, Adam
[00:25:31] S0: Do you have friends anymore? [00:25:32] S1: I don't know. Hell, I could probably count on like two... Nah. Like I actually did. I did see a bunch of friends this weekend. I've I've just got a problem of being overly obsessive when you work and like, because what we do, there's like all these things that we can call work, which actually are work, but they're sort of things I do in my spare time. Like reading different types of content, making notes about things on the internet, like just lots of reading and learning activities. Yeah. I just get too obsessed with it. Yeah. So I need to I need boundaries with myself. Yeah. What should I do? What do you think I should do? [00:26:02] S0: I think you should just keep up the exercise and [00:26:04] S1: the sleep. Like, I think that's fine. Like, that's BAU. And [00:26:09] S0: I think... Yeah, just doing things that take you out of your head and into your body, like you exercise religiously, but what are those other things you can do to be, like, really, really present? Like, maybe more yoga classes on the weekend. Maybe more like things where you combine exercise with socializing. Like, if you go to Salty's in Bondi and you have coffee with people afterwards. [00:26:25] S1: I used to do that, but then I went like, this is the bad thing when you start to have big goals and exercise and you like always want to exercise alone because then you're doing a training program to learn it's like marathons and high rules.
00:26:25 · Adam, Sachin
[00:26:25] S1: I used to do that, but then I went like, this is the bad thing when you start to have big goals and exercise and you like always want to exercise alone because then you're doing a training program to learn it's like marathons and high rules. [00:26:34] S0: Honestly started that like I actually like almost disagree with this mentality now. Like we're at the beginning of the year, like, I'm guilty of this as well. We set these big goals across every area of our life, but then every area of your life becomes goal driven. And it's like, then you just can't like almost enjoy anything about your life in the sense that you like to really enjoy it. Like, I [00:26:50] S1: love the exercise I do. [00:26:51] S0: The running, the hierarchy. Mean, then it doesn't become community oriented at all. It just becomes like, it's kind of what we've talked about this, like in Western cultures, how everything is individualistic, then literally everything becomes individualistic and for yourself. Whilst if you go to run club, you may run slower, maybe not be towards your goals, but you may beat a billion people, you may beat [00:27:08] S1: up finding the right training partners. That's it. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. I feel like I will probably not take on that advice for a bit because I still love the goals that I'm eating towards Yeah. Honest wise. But no, definitely like take the point, like trying
00:27:08 · Adam, Sachin
[00:27:08] S1: up finding the right training partners. That's it. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. I feel like I will probably not take on that advice for a bit because I still love the goals that I'm eating towards Yeah. Honest wise. But no, definitely like take the point, like trying [00:27:23] S0: to find community in your hobbies. Yeah. That's big. And I just think like we just need to protect our sleep with this intensity. Like I think operate better like that. Like, right now, I slept, like, an average of five and a half hours for the last, like, eight days, and I feel, like, very exhausted. Yeah. We'll see people that need our sleep as well. Exactly. And the words, like, aren't as articulate. Like, I just, like... I don't know. Things don't... Like even this podcast, I reckon would be much better on eight hours sleep than we're doing right now. Yeah. What are [00:27:48] S1: you feeling most passionate about at the moment? [00:27:53] S0: I think it's building like that world class team. Like this is something that fascinates me. A lot of people don't like managing people. Like, I really love it. And I'm like fascinated with this question of like, how do you bring someone closer to what they really want out of life? Not just in work holistically Mhmm. With their exercise, with their family, with all that kind stuff, how is work going to enable it with that? Because you spend so much time at work, and then how do you put these people in systems where they work really well with other people? [00:28:19] S1: And I think there's a lot